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Bestselling author Michael Covel is the host of Trend Following Radio with 15+ million listens. Investments, economics, psychology, politics, decision-making, human behavior, entrepreneurship and trading -- all passionately explored and debated. Guests include Nobel Prize winners: Robert Aumann, Angus Deaton, Daniel Kahneman, Oliver Hart, Harry Markowitz & Vernon Smith. More guests: Jack Canfield, Howard Marks, James Altucher, Dan Ariely, Jean-Philippe Bouchaud, Kathleen Eisenhardt, Marc Faber, Tim Ferriss, Jason Fried, Gerd Gigerenzer, Larry Hite, Sally Hogshead, Ryan Holiday, Jack Horner, Ewan Kirk, Steven Kotler, Michael Mauboussin, Tucker Max, Barry Ritholtz, Jim Rogers, Jack Schwager, Ed Seykota, Philip Tetlock & Walter Williams. 1200+ episodes.

Jan 22, 2024

My guest today is Scott Fulford, a senior economist at the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau where he led the development of the Making Ends Meet Survey. He has represented the U.S. at the OECD, and he regularly speaks at the Federal Reserve Board, Federal Reserve banks, the OCC, the Financial Stability Oversight Council, the FDIC, the NBER, and universities.

The topic is his book The Pandemic Paradox: How the COVID Crisis Made Americans More Financially Secure.

In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:

  • Economic growth and decline during the pandemic
  • Government intervention and financial support
  • Inflation and its causes
  • Potential economic bubble
  • Counterfactuals in pandemic response
  • Impact on stock market and employment
  • The potential for a better, fairer and more productive economy

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